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Posted 11 January 2008
 

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For an island which has just introduced a large change in its tax regime in order to continue to be competitive in the financial world it would seem a bit crazy now to change our time zone and put us out-of-sync with our closest major finanacial center - LONDON - wouldn't it?

On a personal level I would enjoy the long evenings, surfing until 11 pm sounds fantastic and might lead to the development of Guernsey's extreme sports potential, and my business would adapt as it has had to do with any change I am sure, but still the time change seems largely impractical.

There are some great points above - flight schedules, TV schedules, tourist confusion etc, but surely a strong point should be that we would be sending out a very confused message to the finance world if we align our summer time with Central Europe, instead of staying with UK which I believe has helped us develop our finance industry. Our time zone has possibly been a driver in its establishment in recent years.



Garrick Jones
E. A. Carey (Europe) Ltd
www.eacarey.co.uk
Post #750
Posted 11 January 2008
 

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Please find enclosed the results for the recent online survey conducted by Online Marketing Company - Submarine Limited.


Guidance notes:
- Responses 425
- Response sample generally people working between 9-5 with access to email and, in the main, office workers. Bulk of age range 25-55
- Comment Box: It's a venting area so I would be wary using the comments as an indication of people's average thoughts on a subject.
- Demographic: Matching our surveys against Island Opinion who conducts surveys with an accurate demographic profile of the islands population we have a 3% margin of error either side of any results.
- Addendum: In 4 years of survey provision we've never experienced a subject that so polarises people's views. Some surprising vehemence in the comment area.

This survey is provided free of charge by Submarine and is free for you to disperse to whom you see fit. If this information is published all we ask is a mention as providers of the service.



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On a personal level I would enjoy the long evenings, surfing until 11 pm sounds fantastic

That was the first thing that came to my mind :-)


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Post #751
Posted 11 January 2008
 

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I am sure everyone would welcome the "continental feel".

But its only worth it if the UK goes the same way, and not just Jersey.

Peter Roffeys rant that business is not co-operating and seizing the vision is way off mark - maybe business just lives in the real world.
Post #753
Posted 11 January 2008
 

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Changing the time zone will mean many people will be going to work in the dark most of the time. This means increased accidents, although it could be said that the same exists when going home.

Also there is greater likelihood of accidents and possibly death in the winter when roads are icy, this could also be applied to scaffolding etc. Normally when daybreak comes ice goes very quickly. There is much less chance of icy road at the end of the working day than at the start of it.

People relying on natural light like builders would suffer the most as traditionally they start earlier than many who work in offices where artificial light is the norm.

I think it would be more of an advantage to be in sync with the UK rather than France if as I suspect more business is done with the UK. For the world market we will always be out of sync so it does not matter as much.

Broadcast programs that we use are in UK sync.

It seems as if the move would be so people would have better leisure time. Something that would contribute to the nanny state. If economic growth is desired then the workforce needs to be more productive - it seems as if everything is trying to do the opposite.
Post #754
Posted 11 January 2008
 

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Having now had a chance to read through the additional comments within the survey results, I agree that there is a high degree of vehemence in the responses which demonstrates that this is a very divisive issue. The passion which is aroused would be better spent in the pursuit of issues which would unite and benefit the population as a whole.

It is also clear that business, and the finance sector in particular, needs to convince the population as a whole that the very many benefits that we enjoy through living in Guernsey just do not arise naturally. We are very much dependent upon our "invisible exports" which ultimately pay the vast majority of the bills. if not through direct corporate taxation, then through tax on the wages and salaries and other expenditure which businesses make within the local economy. Currently, it seems fashionable to talk about what the island has done for the business sector - which rather misses the point!

Also, what is "petty" about expressing your view in a democratic system? This rather suggests a lack of cogent argument to put forward in rebuttal.
Post #755
Posted 17 January 2008
 

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I couldn't find the detail on thisisjersey website but here's some comment from Jersey on Guernsey's stance from another news source

http://jersey.wantedineurope.com/news/news.php?id_n=4031&title=Jersey%20may%20move%20to%20CET.&on=general

The Channel Islands could break with Britain by shifting the clocks forward by one hour to adopt Central European Time (CET).

In a consultation paper to be published by Easter the chief minister’s department wants to test the public mood for switching the clocks. And Guernsey’s States are a step ahead – they are to debate a proposition in February to put Guernsey’s clocks forward.

The move would put both islands into line with France but out of step with the UK. Under the Guernsey proposals, that island could move to CET by 2009. In Jersey, the States are waiting for a report on the possible effects of the move from chief minister Frank Walker.

In the States in July 2006 Senator Walker agreed to produce a report for public consultation, including comments from each of his ministers on the effect of moving the clocks to CET.



Regards
 
Administration Team
www.guernseychamber.com
 
 

 

Post #763
Posted 06 March 2008
 

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Having returned from the Algarve last week where the time is identical to UK I am somewhat confused.
Just where is central Europe ?
Europe keeps getting bigger so presumably it moves about a bit ,unlike Grenwich!
Well at least we are now going to look into it all in yet more depth after the last States meeting.
Its just a thought ,but it would have meant a Roffey hat trick with the Motor tax being scrapped and the "tax "on plastic bags idea also being adopted.If you pardon the pun perhaps Deputy Roffey was ahead of his time ?
Whoever said progess was a slow process was absolutely right though.
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