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| Yes I know I cant spell but if this does go ahead, what would it mean for us?
I would like to see a bigger runway so we can take modern planes (size, noise, efficiency) and enough plane parking to cope with more planes but would the island get this if the airport went into private hands ?
I am sure there must be someone out there who knows the answers ? |
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| It has been suggested that PSD were going through the motions aat this meeting. We hear that the 'bump' needs sorting out on the runwaqy, some say it needs extending to take the backbone aircraft of the charter fleets, the 737s.
Having listened to a number of Chamber discussions on the subject a couple of things have struck me and for the purposes of debate they are as follows.
1) PSD run the airport, the caretakes in effect. Surely this is a strategic asset of the island and any lobbyng by Chamber should be directed to Commerce & Employment? Is the growth of the island not in C&E's mandate.
2) What would be the statistical benefits of an extended runway? More aircraft I assume, but to what end?
3) Of commercialisation. I'd be interested in one of the supporters to succintly precis the benefits to the island. |
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| Privatisation
Not being present at the meetings or presentations, we do not know fully what was on offer, we are however exploring what privatization or not being privatized would meen together with advantages and disadvantages, and untill this has been studied further we cannot comment constructivly.
Ruway length
Studies have been undertaken and further studies are being made, but the fact is that runway levelling, lengthening and improvements to the RESA's (runway End Safery Areas) is required for many of the 'current aircraft' that operate, to enable them to operate safely all year round without restrictions, including summer or winter, dry or wet runway conditions. This applies to some current commerciall passenger and freight aircarft, as well as the corporate aircraft (which incidentally has opperations increased now to 5 times what they were last year).
The runway improvements would then be suitable for operations of the normal aircraft size and types used by the majority of UK & European airlines needed for the routes & destinations currently operated. It would enable better flexibility for changes and provide a runway also to suite the new generation of aircraft types which need a longer runway than at present to operate to capacity, and will provide lower emisions, considerably less fuel burn etc. |
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| | A recent trip to Jersey highlighted the number of different planes landing with our sister island and the news that the Isle of Man is going ahead with runway work to lengthen and improve to allow a wider range of planes to land. Oh dear this worries me |
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| For a busy international regional airport, Guernsey's runway is now the shortest in the UK (other that The Scilly Isles & Hebredies airports)....., even shorter than London City (as this has been extended), also Isle of Man has been extended......and if I am not mistaken, may also be the shortest in Europe.
Airline aircraft fleets will be used on networks using type sitable for the majority of destinations, providing opertunities for all year round operations with max PAX & max range.
Where doe this leave Guernsye? |
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| With a need to lengthen its runway to open it upto other airlines who use planes that they have in there fleet or look forward to an Aurigny / Flybe / Blue Islands monopoly until one or the other decides that there fleet of suitable craft no longer financially stack up perhaps ???? |
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| Given the choice many of us would settle for the Aurigny/Flybe/ Blue Islands oligopoly. Opening up to other airlines is not going to bring in more people, but it will ruin what little open space we have remaining. What is more, we rarely see full flights with the limited capacity currently available to us.
Extending the runway is a luxury (yes, it is a luxury) we simply cannot afford, yet Chamber seems to be obsessed with this white elephant. I don't get it.
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| Higher charges lose Swiss route
A Bailiwick airline's new service to Switzerland is being run from Jersey because Guernsey airport charges are too high.
Blue Islands had considered flying to Zurich and Geneva from Guernsey, but changed its decision when it was given a better deal by Jersey authorities.
The company's chairman, Derek Coates, said Guernsey had been unable to compete with its neighbour.
Scheduled flights from Jersey to Geneva and Zurich, will connect with Guernsey.
The 90-minute flights will operate to Zurich on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays, and to Geneva on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
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| richard parker (06/11/2007)
Given the choice many of us would settle for the Aurigny/Flybe/ Blue Islands oligopoly. Opening up to other airlines is not going to bring in more people, but it will ruin what little open space we have remaining. What is more, we rarely see full flights with the limited capacity currently available to us.
Extending the runway is a luxury (yes, it is a luxury) we simply cannot afford, yet Chamber seems to be obsessed with this white elephant. I don't get it.
Because I for one would like some choice on destination and a kick up the pants of the current carriers on price !. The more destinations that can fly direct to Guernsey then the bigger the catchment area and more potential visitors - No more vistors, less money spent then you will end up with all the space you want because businesses will relocate to an island that is open for business.
Opening up to other airlines does bring more people fact !
Being able to park airplaines also helps so we dont have to turn them away - still, as long as the "three" have there slots I suppose its ok
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| Because I for one would like some choice on destination and a kick up the pants of the current carriers on price !. That's not the business argument. No one's going to extend routes based on a pool of 60k, not for long anyway, as was seen by Blue Islands pull out from CardiffThe more destinations that can fly direct to Guernsey then the bigger the catchment area and more potential visitors You have my attention here. Any figures, given that there appears to be a reducing/reduced bed stock. No more vistors, less money spent then you will end up with all the space you want because businesses will relocate to an island that is open for business. This was predicted with the loss of Heathrow and it didn't happen.
Opening up to other airlines does bring more people fact ! No argument there. Is the extension of the runway proposal aimed at looking at regular airlines, charter flights or private jets? Or a mixture of all three? Are there any predictions, airlines in the wings or figures/research been conducted on the benefits?After the PSD meet Carla McNulty Bauer was interviewed on Radio Guernsey alluding to new routes and airlines. Does anyone know if this was Blue Islands recent route extension plans or was there another airline to which she was referring? We're here to learn, question and discuss.
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